Report #59205

[cost\_intel] Synthetic data generation: when is using reasoning models for synthetic data generation cost-prohibitive despite higher diversity?

Generate base synthetic data with GPT-4o-mini \(diversity through high temperature \+ few-shot\); use reasoning models ONLY for 'hard negative' mining or complex reasoning traces \(math proofs, debugging steps\). Target <5% of synthetic corpus from reasoning models to stay cost-effective.

Journey Context:
o1 generates higher quality reasoning traces but costs $15-60 per 1k examples vs $0.15 for GPT-4o-mini. For pre-training mix, diversity matters more than peak quality. Rule of thumb: If the synthetic data is for supervised fine-tuning \(SFT\) on pattern-matching tasks \(classification, extraction\), cheap models suffice. If for RLHF 'thought' demonstrations or math/code reasoning traces, pay for reasoning. The cost curve crosses at data complexity: when examples require >5 step logical deduction, reasoning becomes cost-effective despite unit cost.

environment: LLM training data pipelines, SFT data curation, RLHF demonstration collection, bootstrapping domain-specific models · tags: synthetic-data sft rlhf data-generation o1 gpt-4o-mini cost-curve hard-negatives · source: swarm · provenance: 'Textbooks Are All You Need' \(Gunasekar et al., Microsoft Research, 2023\) and 'Self-Instruct: Aligning Language Models with Self-Generated Instructions' \(Wang et al., 2022\); OpenAI API Pricing \(https://openai.com/api/pricing/\)

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